Meet the Mazamas

Tiffany, a nurse practitioner, is board-certified in psychiatry and a solo practitioner. She is a therapist with the American Alpine Association’s Climbing Grief Fund and the American Avalanche Association Resilience Project

She divides her time between Virginia, where she helps manage care for her mother who has Alzheimer’s and Oregon, where she climbs with the Mazamas and assists with the Basic Climbing Education Program (BCEP).

Name:  Tiffany McClean

Pronouns:  She/Her

Year Joined Mazamas: 2018

Present-day outdoor activities:  Rock and alpine climbing, backpacking, downhill skiing, scuba diving and horseback riding. 

What’s your earliest outdoor memory? Being on my dad’s sailboat in the Chesapeake Bay, which is akin to camping. It wasn’t a big boat, but it was big enough that we could sleep on it.  I used to sleep in the cockpit as a little girl and just look up at the stars. 

How did you first hear about the Mazamas, and what prompted you to engage with the organization? To be honest, it was a rough introduction, although that can’t be blamed on the Mazamas. I first heard about the organization when I was dating someone who thought they were skilled enough to bypass BCEP and go straight into Intermediate Climbing School (ICS), but the Mazamas disagreed. Then, one of my close friends and colleagues was dating someone who died on Mt. Hood. I had climbed Mt. Adams, South Sister and other peaks, and I really, really wanted to climb Mt. Hood, but after that, I was so afraid. I knew I needed training that would allow me to take care of myself at a minimum, so I signed up for BCEP, and I got in!

As more people seek to recreate outdoors, what advice would you offer them? I think first and foremost, nature and the outdoors are for everyone. And I mean everyone, regardless of age, sex, disability, race, etc. In the Climbing Grief Fund, we celebrate turning around, and I firmly believe mountaineering is more than just summiting. People need to know their limits, must work to fill in their knowledge gaps through organizations like the Mazamas and be OK with being vulnerable. Vulnerability in the outdoors is absolutely acceptable and should be encouraged.. 

What activities/situations/people most inspire you? I guess I’d have to say that people who are willing to speak about their own fears and share mental health issues in the mountains. People can push the envelope of fear in climbing and yet still be willing to say, “Today is not my day,” or “I know my limits. South Sister is my Mt. Hood, and I am fine with that..” Mazama Climb Leaders Tim Scott and Pushkar Dixit embody these values and definitely inspire me. 

What is your favorite book/movie/TV show/social media account that you follow and why? Pick one. I have listened to almost every single episode of Hidden Brain. It’s a great podcast. 

What’s on your adventure bucket list? I’ve had to cancel a few Glacier Peak climbs to be with family, so that looms large on my list. I’d really like to trek to Annapurna base camp. I’d also like to dive into a great white shark cage. I feel like that can be done ethically. 

Meet the Mazamas

Sarah Lydecker is a Portland-based rock climbing instructor, artist and Certified Recovery Mentor. She’s been climbing for more than a decade, inspired by strong women mentors from her first all-women’s mountaineering course. Sarah has taught climbing skills since 2015, using her passion to empower others and build community and develop outdoor programming for adults in recovery. A certified AMGA Single Pitch Instructor, Sarah is thrilled to be the lead outdoor guide for the Multnomah Athletic Club.

Name: Sarah Lydecker

Pronouns: She / Her

Year Joined Mazamas: 2014

Present-day outdoor activities: Cragging, wandering around in the mountains, and finding the best outdoor napping spots with my dog. I also work as a professional guide leading climbing and hiking excursions.

What’s your earliest outdoor memory? Feeding the horses and donkeys at the end of our street in west Texas.

How did you first hear about the Mazamas, and what prompted you to engage with the organization? I had gotten into hiking, and some of the trails took me up into alpine meadows and onto snowfields. Having grown up in the south, I had no understanding of snow, and was convinced I was going to die if I hiked in the mountains without training. I started reading about people doing something called peak bagging and was really drawn to the appeal of climbing up Mt Hood, so I enrolled in the Basic Climbing Education Program (BCEP).

As more people seek to recreate outdoors, what advice would you offer them? Sooooooooo many things! I think the biggest thing is to do activities for your own enjoyment and not to have ‘epic adventures’ to share on social media. If you couldn’t post your outing on Instagram, would you still do it?

I would suggest that people really enjoy their beginning period of outdoor recreation. You don’t have to do hard stuff all the time, and your validity as a sportsperson is not dependent on what grade you climb. You do not need to be pushing hard all the time with training, committing routes and long approaches. It’s okay to take it slow with the skills you develop. I took BCEP in 2014, AR in 2018, and SSI in 2023; having time between those courses allowed me to find confidence in myself as a climber and ask more informed questions when I was a student.

For rock climbing, the best advice I ever got was from the guy who taught me trad. After I led my first pitches and got his seal of approval to go and lead on my own, he handed me his copy of Climbing Self Rescue and told me to read it all and learn how to execute the techniques in that book before I sought out climbing partners independently. The skills I learned in that book got me out of trouble almost instantly. I think that as climbing becomes more mainstream, people can lose sight of the objective risks that the sport has. Yes, rock climbing is an extremely accessible sport that people of all ages and bodies can do, but gravity will always win and it’s important that we recognize that. Even if you are following a skilled friend up an easy multipitch, can you deal with a situation where there’s a bad leader fall and more than half the rope is out?

What activities/situations/people most inspire you? I’m inspired by all the gray-haired ladies out there who are climbing. By Leora Gregorgy, who can outpace me walking up Mt Hood and by Teresa Dalsager who came out ice cragging with me this winter and helped me find the joy in that sport. I’m inspired by the women who have babies and still recreate despite the changes to their bodies and home life. I grew up in a world where the prevailing narrative for women is that our life is over after 30, and that’s something that has haunted me as a childless dog lady. I’m starting to get excited for my 40s and all the adventures they will hold.

What is your favorite book/movie/TV show/social media account that you follow and why? Pick one. I absolutely love “The Witches of Eileanan” series by Kate Forsyth. I listened to the audiobooks while doing a lot of solo backpacking in 2020 and I found the story and world so captivating. The characters are well-written and the author focused on the importance of platonic relationships and community. Reading a “happy ever after” where the main character and her lover both have separate intellectual callings and projects they devote themselves to was a revelation for me– very different from the standard story ending where the couple gets married, has kids, and that’s it.

What’s on your adventure bucket list? Astroman in Yosemite, All Along the Watchtower in the Bugaboos, Peter Croft’s Big Four in the Sierra, and being able to swing ice leads in Cody, WY. Maybe also learning how to whitewater kayak.

Meet the Mazamas

Megan joined the Mazamas in 2023 as part of the Basic Climbing Education Program (BCEP) recovery team. She enjoys hiking and rock climbing with her family all around the Northwest. She is now using her skills learned from the Mazamas to volunteer with local organizations, aiming to create inclusive outdoor experiences for underserved communities. She works in healthcare analytics, loves to travel, and is always down for a slice of pizza. 

Name:  Megan Lien

Pronouns:  she/her

Year Joined Mazamas: 2023

Present-day outdoor activities: Primarily rock climbing and hiking

What’s your earliest outdoor memory? My earliest outdoor memory is hiking with my parents and brother in the Olympic National Forest. Although I grew up in Seattle, we had a cabin on the Hood Canal, so we spent many weekends exploring the trails around the Olympic Peninsula.

How did you first hear about the Mazamas, and what prompted you to engage with the organization? I joined the Mazamas in 2023 as part of the BCEP recovery team. At the time, I was early in my sobriety, feeling isolated, and seeking a community of adventurers in recovery. My BCEP group provided exactly that, offering a transformative experience. Since then, I’ve continued to participate in Mazamas activities, climbing Mount Adams last summer and completing the Round the Mountain trek this year.

As more people seek to recreate outdoors, what advice would you offer them? Find a community and trustworthy, knowledgeable mentors. It’s great to connect with people who share your passions, but finding mentors who can teach you how to safely enjoy those activities. 

What activities/situations/people most inspire you? I’m inspired by opportunities to give back. Lately, I’ve been volunteering with organizations like Loco Por La Aventura and Recovery Outsiders, which is especially meaningful because I had mentors through BCEP who dedicated their time to helping me. One very recent experience, I was volunteering at Broughton’s Bluff with Loco Por La Aventura, where we introduced 20 participants, mostly from the Latino community, to outdoor rock climbing—many for the first time. Seeing them overcome their fears and try something new was incredibly rewarding.

What is your favorite book/movie/TV show/social media account that you follow and why? Pick one.  Lately, I’ve been really enjoying watching big, over-the-top action movies like The Meg, and the Godzilla vs. Kong franchises with my 8-year-old. It’s a fun way to bond and share in the excitement of these larger-than-life adventures.

What’s on your adventure bucket list? My next goal is climbing and tackling the via Ferrata in Ouray, Colorado. In the future, I’d love to do a lodge-to-lodge trek on the Camino del Apu Ausangate in Peru.

Meet the Mazamas

Nick joined the Mazamas this year to take part in our Advanced Rock course, but he’s been an outdoor enthusiast for years and enjoys hiking, backpacking, snowboarding, biking and more. When not in the wild, he runs his own tech support and production company and is a classically trained musician, instrumentalist, singer, composer and former yoga instructor. 

Name:  Nick Hankins

Pronouns:  He/Him

Year Joined Mazamas: 2024 

Present-day outdoor activities:  Cragging, Alpine Epics, Hiking, Backpacking, Camping, Photography, Slacklining, Skiing, Snowboarding, Running, Biking, Fixing Vanny (my elderly campervan)

What’s your earliest outdoor memory? Technically accurate, but super throwback…swinging on a swing set in France when I was about 4 or 5 on a sunny day and a girl walked over and kissed me on the cheek.

How did you first hear about the Mazamas, and what prompted you to engage with the organization? My friend Julie told me about the Mazamas when I was climbing with her at Movement. She literally said “You should join the Mazamas and take their Advanced Rock class. I took it last year and it was awesome. You’d love it.”

As more people seek to recreate outdoors, what advice would you offer them? As certain sectors of the world seem to be trending more and more towards chaos, the sanctity of the great outdoors and protected natural spaces has never been more important. As best as you can, try to be considerate of other people’s spiritual experience in these spaces…whether that means adhering to the Leave No Trace principle or leaving your bluetooth speaker and your drone at home (preaching to myself about the drones) or smiling at someone as you pass them on the trail or taking education classes like those offered by the Mazamas to enrich your experience and to propagate best practices that help keep everyone safe, which in turn helps to keep these sacred spaces open and available to all of us. Join a community of like-minded friends and get away from the doom screens as often as you can! I recently deleted Instagram and Facebook on my phone and instead share photos and videos with my friends on a shared Discover Server.

What activities/situations/people most inspire you? People climbing hard in beautiful places. People living simply and minimalistically. People going out of their way or sacrificing their own safety or freedom to help or to stand up for those in need. 

What is your favorite book/movie/TV show/social media account that you follow and why? Pick one. I love the Reel Rock documentaries. They’re produced really well and the stories and cinematography is always top notch.

What’s on your adventure bucket list? I have a number of destinations and crags and alpine peaks on my bucket list, but the one I obsess about the most is a top secret route on the Oregon coast that I’m planning to rebolt and revitalize. 

Meet the Mazamas

Julia is a recent graduate of our Basic Climbing Education Program (BCEP) who loves to eat fun snacks on big mountains! Her day job is a hydrologist at the USGS Oregon Water Science Center. Ask her about rocks!

Name:  Julia Grabowski

Pronouns:  she/her

Year Joined Mazamas: 2023

Present-day outdoor activities: rock skipping, hiking, running, climbing, Nordic skiing

What’s your earliest outdoor memory? My parents are very outdoorsy North Carolinians, and I have a lot of great, early outdoor memories. They have a picture holding me on top of Hanging Rock as a 2-week-old-infant. My best memories are from when I got to play with nature — licking icicles like popsicles on Roan Mountain, making “rock music” with my friend by throwing rocks in the water and finding salamanders in creeks with my sister.

How did you first hear about the Mazamas, and what prompted you to engage with the organization? I moved to Portland two  years ago and seemed to hear about the Mazamas from everyone. I had been looking for an outdoor community and more knowledge of mountaineering and Mazamas hit!

As more people seek to recreate outdoors, what advice would you offer them? Remember that our fun hobby is a hobby, and it’s supposed to be for fun! I get annoyed seeing people taking themselves and their activity too seriously. If you’re not having fun, you’re doing it wrong.

What activities/situations/people most inspire you? I feel really inspired by the intergenerational aspect of the Mazama community. It feels really good for my soul to be always engaged in teaching and learning at the same time, and being surrounded by people of different ages facilitates those interactions. I love learning from my elders, and teaching is also really fulfilling.

What is your favorite book/movie/TV show/social media account that you follow and why? Pick one. The “SE Taylor Street Cat News.” Someone posts a monthly page on a street corner in SE Portland describing the recent goings-on with the neighborhood cats. I’m very interested in community organization that isn’t routed through Mark Zuckerburg’s pocket and always looking for inspiration!

What’s on your adventure bucket list? I would love to go canoe/raft camping in the Northwest. That is something I used to do in the Southeast, but the Northwest rivers are more serious, and I have not felt comfortable jumping in without a supportive group with me. 

Meet the Mazamas (Election Edition)

Joining the Mazamas has been transformative for Debbie, and she treasures the education she’s received, the friends she’s made and the myriad volunteer opportunities she’s embraced within the organization. 

She’s a Mountain LEAD certified educator and a climb leader who has co-led the queer BCEP team the past two years as an ally with her husband, Kirk. For the past decade, she has worked as a licensed psychologist serving adolescents and young adults. Prior to that she worked in accounting and finance for 20 years. Read more about Debbie and other Mazama Board candidates.

Name:  Debbie Dwelle

Pronouns:  she/her

Year Joined Mazamas: 2015

Present-day outdoor activities: Mountaineering, rock climbing, hiking, backpacking, snowshoeing, amateur nature photography (mostly wildflowers)

What’s your earliest outdoor memory? Camping with my parents and making campfires with my dad. I’m still mesmerized by a good campfire!

How did you first hear about the Mazamas, and what prompted you to engage with the organization? I heard about the Basic Climbing Education Program (BCEP) through a friend. I had done some backpacking and had summited Mt. St. Helens in the summer (not a 10/10 experience…). I knew I didn’t have the technical skills to do more than that and was interested in learning more, so I applied. My BCEP experience opened up a whole new world for me, including an introduction to technical climbing skills as well as meeting an entire new community of amazing people. The other volunteers, sense of community, teaching opportunities, and being present when others reach their goals are what’s kept me engaged and active in the organization for the past several years.

As more people seek to recreate outdoors, what advice would you offer them? Learn how to do things safely from others who have trusted experience. Don’t be afraid to ask questions. Don’t let others try to tell you what you “should” do. Explore new things on your own terms, discover what sparks joy, and do more of that! 

What activities/situations/people most inspire you? I am most inspired by strong female role models. I appreciate humans who don’t accept limitations put on them by others and instead forge their own path, whatever that looks like!

What is your favorite book/movie/TV show/social media account that you follow and why? Pick one. It’s tough to pick just one! I’d say my favorite social media platform is Instagram. I have a wide range of interests, so I appreciate that I can quickly get information/updates on a variety of topic areas in one place, including climbing, soccer, nature photography, mental health, advocacy, music, humor, etc. I’ve been able to curate my feed such that it [mostly] sparks joy. 

What’s on your adventure bucket list? So many things! As far as mountaineering goals, I have Mt. Rainier and Mt. Olympus currently on my bucket list. I also generally want to do more alpine rock climbs. I’ve spent the past several months recovering from injury, so I’m just excited to get back outside for more adventuring!


Meet the Mazamas

Kaitlyn launched right into climbing and skiing after moving to Oregon in 2017. She took the Mazama Advanced Rock course earlier this year and quickly jumped into volunteering for the organization. She is now serving on the AR committee, helping folks hone their climbing skills and encouraging others interested in learning to lead trad climbs to apply for AR 2024.

Name: Kaitlyn Beecroft Sweeney

Pronouns: She/Her

Year Joined Mazamas: 2022

Present-day outdoor activities: Rock climbing, skiing, mountain biking, and building mountain bike trails in Tillamook.

What’s your earliest outdoor memory? My family used to go camping in West Texas when I was around 8 or 9. I remember riding bikes with my sister around a lake.

How did you first hear about the Mazamas, and what prompted you to engage with the organization? I first heard about the Mazamas from a co-worker, and later after I started climbing I wanted to take a course that covered high angle rescue. The Advanced Rock course really drew me in and I have enjoyed meeting and learning from many great people since becoming involved.

As more people seek to recreate outdoors, what advice would you offer them? I would encourage them to keep it as light as they want and have fun. At the end of the day it’s all about doing things you enjoy with people you enjoy spending time with. Sometimes that’s a big multi-day adventure and other times it’s a short day hike.

What activities/situations/people most inspire you? Pick one. My family and friends inspire me.

What is your favorite book/movie/TV show/social media account that you follow and why? I’ve been following competition climbing since the Olympics. It’s cool to see how much it has grown. Always impressed with the route setters and athletes.

What’s on your adventure bucket list? So many things! If I had to pick one, I’d love to go to Indian Creek.

Meet the Mazamas

Kate, who most recently served as the Mazamas Advanced Rock Committee co-chair, is a former Chicagoan and lover of all things rock climbing and snacking. She loves to climb long multi-pitch routes, with thin hand cracks, run out slab, and techy foot work. She says she never climbs without a full snack pack on her harness. When not climbing and/or volunteering for the Mazamas, Kate works as a physical therapist and mom to 3-month-old Remy.

Name:  Kate Scanlan

Pronouns:  she/her

Year Joined Mazamas: 2017

Present-day outdoor activities: rock climbing, skiing, surfing, and hiking with our newborn

What’s your earliest outdoor memory? I grew up in the Midwest and always loved when there was enough snow to dig out igloos as a kid. Snow days were the best! 

How did you first hear about the Mazamas, and what prompted you to engage with the organization?  I moved to Portland in 2016, and my coworker told me about her Basic Climbing Education Program experience. I was already a sport climber but I was curious about climbing the mountains I could see from my new home here in Portland. I took BCEP in 2017 and it’s how I made my first friends in Portland. It turned out I didn’t like long slogs on snow all that much so the next year I took Advanced Rock. The people I’ve climbed with through AR and the trips I’ve taken thanks to those skills have been some of the most rewarding moments of my life.  I joined the AR committee after I finished AR because I wanted to see more women and diversity in the class, and I’ve been a member ever since. I love the community, and I love getting to contribute to positive change in the Mazamas and the climbing community at large. 

As more people seek to recreate outdoors, what advice would you offer them?  If you’re new to an activity don’t be afraid to ask for help. We were all new at one time or another. Just because you’re inexperienced doesn’t mean you don’t belong. And if you’re experienced don’t forget where you came from. We all have mentors that helped us get where we are, so pay it forward when you can. 

What activities/situations/people most inspire you? Pick one.  Right now my biggest inspiration is moms who climb and climbing families. As a new mom, I’m working out how to maintain my identity as a climber while welcoming this role as a mother. There are pro climbers like Emily Harrington that show one way to adventure with a baby that’s certainly inspiring, but she has a climbing nanny and climbing is her job so it’s not entirely attainable for an average climber like me. The parents I see at the crag with their little ones are my biggest inspiration and give me hope for melding these two great joys in my life.

What is your favorite book/movie/TV show/social media account that you follow and why?  The Little Prince has always been a manifesto of sorts to me. It reminds me of what is truly important when it’s so easy to get caught up in our consumer-driven, fast-paced lives. I read it when I want to reconnect to the best version of myself.

What’s on your adventure bucket list? Soooo many things! My big climbing goal that really inspires me is Fine Jade in Castle Valley, UT. Desert towers are so iconic and striking. They’re my favorite adventure days. Non-climbing related, I dream of kayaking in the arctic with narwhals.  And in the future I really hope to share a rope with my son, Remy.  

 

Meet the Mazamas

Jeremy grew up on a lake in Minnesota, fishing and camping with his family. He spent three years in Bozeman, MT in college before permanently moving to the West Coast. He met a great group of friends through the Mazamas and our Basic Climbing Education Program, and now he spends most of his free time rock climbing or mountaineering with them. 

Name:  Jeremy Luedtke

Year Joined Mazamas: 2020

Present-day outdoor activities:  Alpine and sport climbing. I recently summited Mount Shasta with Gary Bishop and have multiple ascents planned for the remainder of the summer. I have also been doing more outdoor rock climbing with a great group of people I have met through The Mazamas.

What’s your earliest outdoor memory: I grew up in Minneapolis & my mom was from the north woods closer to Canada. Her family still lived in northern Minnesota and almost every weekend in the summer we would go camping near her hometown and hang out with her family. My earliest outdoor memories were learning how to fish from my grandpa during these trips. He was a cranky old Norwegian fellow who was happiest outdoors and loved to fly fish. While he was always gruff (even around his grandson), he showed his affection by always taking the time to take me on adventures in the woods and teach me about it.

How did you first hear about the Mazamas, and what prompted you to engage with the organization?  After I moved to Portland, I ended up working with a Mazamas member who was on the Lodge Committee. We would chat at work about getting outside and into the mountains. He told me about the Mazamas, and said I would enjoy it.

As more people seek to recreate outdoors, what advice would you offer them? Take advantage of the educational opportunities that Mazamas offers, such as the “gym-to-crag” class or the Sunday Skill-Builders, or volunteer to help with BCEP. Most of my friends, and all of my climbing partners are Mazamas that I met through these opportunities.

What activities/situations/people most inspire you? Honestly, it is the instructors and volunteer assistants at Mazamas classes that I take. Personally, I believe that climbing fun & climbing safely go hand-in-hand. The instructors at Mazamas classes have so much passion about sharing both technical skills and safety best practices, that it inspires me to get outside even more.

What is your favorite book/movie/TV show/social media account that you follow and why? Alpine Savvy, @alpinesavvy. It is both a website and an Instagram account. It is an encyclopedia of climbing knowledge. Definitely a resource that all climbers should subscribe to.

What’s on your adventure bucket list? Easter Island. I know it sounds funny because I don’t think you can do any climbing there, you just walk around and look at stuff. The fact that the island is so remote (the nearest inhabited land to it is 1,200 miles away), and filled with over 1000 giant stone heads is fascinating. Of course, it is also off the coast of Chile, and I heard there is some halfway decent climbing in Patagonia I could do on my way there…

Mazama Climber Task Force Comes to Aid of Local Zoo

By Katie Mills

Way back in September, the Mazamas received a call from the Oregon Zoo with an absurdly awesome request: they wanted the walls of their new chimpanzee habitat tested for climbability!

“It’s one of our traditions before opening a new habitat,” said Tanya Paul, who oversees the zoo’s primate area. “It’s just for fun and not a real ‘safety test’ — the habitat is designed with the knowledge that chimps have incredible upper-body strength and are much better climbers than humans. Still, it’s good to know whether our new habitat passes muster with some of the area’s most expert rock climbers.”

Lynny Brown, the Advanced Rock Committee Volunteer Coordinator, quickly assembled a task force of elite Mazama climbers to bravely tackle this challenge.

On a beautiful, sunny Tuesday afternoon, Lynny, April Henderson, and I met up at the zoo with two bouldering pads, a rope, and all our climbing gear. We were given orange safety vests. A curious elephant wandered up as if to say hi when we passed his habitat, walking through behind-the-scenes areas of the zoo that none of us had seen before.

A safety supervisor introduced herself but did not say anything as we bouldered up the ramparts to install a top rope off of a seemingly hefty eye hook that I did not know the true purpose of.

The elite climber task force fruitlessly attacking the walls of the chimp habitat.
Photo: Zoo Team

I was chomping at the bit to unleash my might on this enclosure and geared up first, gleefully throwing myself at the unsuspecting walls…and…did not even get off the ground. After a few minutes of grunting and flailing I gave up. April, with her longer wingspan, fared better and managed to get a couple feet off of the ground, but still nowhere near the top. We screamed happy cries of encouragement before gravity sternly returned her to earth.

A small crowd of onlookers had gathered to supervise our attempts, among them the zoo’s construction manager. He was stern and serious at first, but his face softened into smiles, laughter, and even a bit of heckling as our attempts to scale the walls proved futile and fruitless.

Lynny attacked a wall that had a shallow dihedral reminiscent of Pure Palm (5.11a Lower Gorge, Smith Rock) to no avail, and even tried some dynamic movement to parkour up the corner above the fenced-in exit door.

April attempts a “pure palm” type climb while Lynny spots her. Photo: Kate Giraud

Exhausted, we reluctantly declared the enclosure “UNCLIMBABLE” and walked out with our tails between our legs. But, what was a stunning defeat for us was an incredible victory for the zoo, and I look forward to seeing all of the chimps living safely and harmoniously in their habitat in the near future!! We were promised a backstage tour of the new Primate Forest habitat in the near future for our efforts and happily went home, knowing the chimps will be well taken care of.